The AGM for the Tottenham Hotspur
plc was again held in White's Club in Paxton Road. However, this
year shareholders had to assemble for coffee and cake in the Bill
Nicholson suite in the West Stand (collecting a free handbook on the
way), before you were summoned to follow a flunky up some stairs, along
a corridor behind the executive boxes, down a staircase in the corner of
the North and the West Stands out into Paxton Lane itself and then into
White's. Was this a ploy to get everyone so out of breath that
they could not ask any questions ??
The company seem to make it as difficult as
possible to attend these do's. A Friday afternoon in December is
not an ideal time to attend and the numbers certainly seemed down on
last year's meeting. I can remember when one was held the morning
of a matchday ... or is my memory playing tricks on me ?
Anyway, the top table was laid out for the
Chairman & Directors, while another to the left was set up for Bill
Nicholson, Igal Yawetz, Martin Peters and George Graham. As is
usual, Bill Nicholson entered to his customary ovation, which the grand
old man of Tottenham looked pleased to receive. The others all
came in and the meeting was called to order on the dot of 2.30 p.m.
(I have detailed the answers to the questions
asked, but have tended to paraphrase them without, I hope, taking away
the gist of the answer. They tended to fall under the following
headings.)
Dividends
As is customary, the formal, financial part of
proceedings opens the meeting and there was much debate about the matter
of no dividend being issued, while the annual report was being
considered. One gentleman, a pensioner, said that he depended on
dividends from his investments to keep him going financially. Alan
Sugar said that until the company showed surpluses over losses (there is
currently no surplus because after transfer dealings the company trades
at a loss), there would be no dividend. Sugar informed the
audience that most shareholders didn't want a dividend and when asked
how he knew, he went on to explain that he was in a no win
situation as previously, he had been criticised for giving a dividend
(when Terry Venables needed the money) and would be criticised if he didn't as some investors want them.
He should have asked those assembled whether or not they wanted a
dividend, although I don't know if that is allowed under Stock Exchange
rules or not. He further added that the £500,000 a dividend would cost would be
better paid in salaries to players than go (mostly) into his pocket,
which he thought most shareholders would agree with !! He was
asked why he couldn't announce a dividend and then choose not to cash
his own dividend, to which he replied that the financial community would
not have confidence in a company which did not pay a dividend. When asked
how investors should expect their shares to appreciate, he said that
when investment on the playing side of on-field activities (working to
the Man. United model) and merchandising, TV rights, etc. picked up,
then the share price should be buoyant in the next few years. Someone
suggested that despite the Worthington Cup win, the share price had
remained static, but the Chairman said he thought that the share shad
performed well in a depressed market. Someone suggested this was
because it would deter anyone coming in to buy him out. Another
questioner put it to Sugar that the fact that no dividend was being paid
was not consistent with the increase in Director's remuneration.
AS felt that the way the accounts were set out did not reflect the true
position about directors pay. To wrap up the subject of dividends,
it was suggested that a token divi could be paid to keep investors happy
and those who did not to cash it didn't have to. Sugar replied
that he would take that comment on board, but some said that they have
been paying a token dividend for some time now !! Remuneration
This
opened up a whole new area of questioning about remuneration. Some
felt it was unfair for Claude Littner to be paid £200,000 when there
was to be no dividend. Sugar said that the payment was in line
with other top executives in commerce who had a loss of office and
anyway, it was less than a year's salary in his outgoing post. He
also felt that there were not enough directors to make up a remuneration
panel and so he had to make these decisions himself. Some one even
asked the Chairman why he was paid so little and how he could then
justify higher wages for other Executive Directors or players.
Sugar thought that it was strange that a shareholder should think he
should take more money out of the club and that if he wanted to give his
time and effort to the company for a small remuneration, then that was
alright by him. As a Director and Chairman of a number of companies,
he was happy with the salary he drew from TH plc. "Shareholder
Value"
The
matter of increasing "Shareholder Value" in the Chairman's
statement was raised by the floor. Sugar said this would be done
by increasing the merchandising arm of the company, by opening new shops
and improving sales on the Internet. A worried question about
"potential for further development" cross-referenced what has
gone on at Newcastle, where season ticket holders have been told they
will be moved to accommodate corporate customers. He was reassured
that this would not be the case here and that the comment related to
merchandising. A subsequent question raised the matter of WHL's capacity
and AS said at the moment the capacity was sufficient, but if there was
further success and the ground was sold out for every game, then the
expansion of the stadium would be considered. However, it was
always a trade-off between investing in the ground and the team.
Another shareholder informed the Board that if it was increased to a
50,000 capacity stadium, then he would make the money back in two years. Buy
Back
A motion passed last year to allow the board to
buy back shares and increase the share price was raised and questioned
as to whether it had been used. Mr. Sugar said it had not. Internet
/ Pleat's role
The
Internet was a matter which was raised and the fact that Tottenham's
website is so poor. Sugar revealed that the deal with Cable &
Wireless was nearly up and that from March 2000, a new, improved website
with free commentary service would be launched. This would include
the prospect of interviews and other news items being included. A question on
whether Tottenham were going to buy a feeder club went unanswered, while
the matter of David Pleat's salary and the large rise in it was answered
by the Chair. He said that for many AGM's the shareholders had
said that they knew nothing about football and that was why someone of
Pleat's undoubted knowledge and experience was brought in. His
worth was not entirely or obviously evident as AS was asked regularly
about what Pleat did, but he felt that the establishment of the Academy
would be beneficial to the club in the long run and would save a
lot of money by bringing players through the ranks. Pleat's
commitment to the cause was also questioned when it was pointed out that
he did not hold any shares, but later in the report said he had a large
shareholding. The questioner had read the report wrongly and had
seen the part about share options, which Pleat is not entitled to until
2001. After bringing back some
questioners to the fact that this was the financial part of the meeting
and that there would be opportunity to ask footballing questions at the
end, the motions were all passed and then the interesting session
started. Sol
The first member of the audience
congratulated Mr. Sugar for spending 50% of the annual income on assets
and while some shareholders were interested in dividends, if that was
their sole interest they should sell their Tottenham shares and invest
in Marks & Spencers !! He also asked if Sugar intended to take
the company private and added that he was willing to pay whatever it
took on his season ticket to keep Sol at Tottenham. The response
was that he would not be taking it private ... ominously adding,
"at this time" and said that they would do everything they
could to keep Sol at the club. This lead to a clarification about
the club's lack of support in the case taken against Sol by the steward
at Derby County. It was confirmed that John Ireland (Company
Secretary) and a leading solicitor accompanied Sol in this matter when
it was heard in court. Stadium matters
Ground matters
were raised again in that after Arsenal and West Ham redevelop/relocate,
Tottenham would have the smallest capacity in the Premiership.
Sugar thought that both clubs were being quite cunning in their
assertions and that Tottenham are currently in the act of preparing
drawings for Planning Permission to extend the East Stand above the road
in Worcester Avenue, but felt that it might take 18 months of negotiations
with the Council on this matter. There followed a question on the
facilities in the West Stand and Sugar said he was aware of this.
He had planned to relocate the club offices above the Ticket Office, but
the cost was prohibitive and so it was back to square one.
However, it was something that was in the Board's mind. One
shareholder said he took some corporate clients to the West ham game and
was appalled that their food arrived at different times and when he
complained, the waitress said she did not speak English. Sugar replied
that the contract with Christopher and Letherby runs out at the end of
next season and they have been warned about the quality of their
service. The new contract would have standards set and if these
were not met, than the contract would be void. Someone wanted to
know why the cameras were up so high at the Lane and that in previous
years it had been said they were going to be moved. Sugar said he
couldn't recall that being said, but what was the problem, rather it
could be a problem with the questioner's TV !! Someone suggested
he was looking at Dominguez !! Sugar said that on Sky the cameras
are at pitchside, so they give a close up view. Players,
money and progress
The
West Stand facilities questioner was also interested in why there were
no Spurs players featuring in the younger England teams these days and
why Pleat had said a "quick fix" would not be bought for the
club - surely Bridges and Keane were not in this category. Pleat
answered that a number of players had been involved in the lower England
representative sides. At the moment there are three boys away in
La Manga with the England Youth side, while Ben Bowditch is regularly in
the Under-16 team. there are also three youngsters in the Under-16
set-up who would be joining the Academy next season. As for
Bridges, he was brought down to discuss terms after a fee had been
agreed with Sunderland, but decided the club wasn't for him. With
Robbie Keane, the club were aware of him and the money was available, it
was a managerial decision. This lead onto a question about GG's
5-year plan and if he wants four quality players, is the money there for
them. Graham himself answered the question by saying he had to get
off to a quick start when he joined, because of the position the club
was in. Winning the Worthington Cup was great and getting into
Europe, but his first stage takes two years and he had been in post for
just over 12 months now. Alex Ferguson had three years at man U
before success came his way and the Board there knew he was doing a lot
of work behind the scenes. Looking at the side now, it is possible
to see the effort Ferguson put into the youth set-up. With Sol's injury and being without
Anderton and Ferdinand, the side had done well this season, especially
with Chris Perry coming straight in and settling well. Anderton
will be back in the new year, with Ferdie two weeks behind him.
Korsten will be ready for action in a couple of weeks too. There
have been some very exciting games at the Lane this season; the West Ham
match being the first when we didn't score. He felt that Spurs
fans were quick to moan and that there was a lot to be happy about, but
even when he was winning trophies at Arsenal, there would be groups
complaining about something. A top six finish this season was a natural progression on
last year. He said that DP is doing a good job and the Academy
would be a great thing in a few years time as what opportunity would
youngsters get at Arsenal and Chelsea, where imports block their way
into the first XI. Graham also went on about Robbie Keane and said
he wasn't sure about the player, because we all saw what happened to
Kevin Davies - so for every success, he could point to a failure.
Sugar added that there was money available if GG wanted a player and
since he came to the club, all the players he has asked for, the club
had tried to get them, thus spending £19 million in the process. Wages
and bonuses add on another £7 million, but he added that GG had been
very sensible about transfer dealings, whereas he could have gone for
the first prices which were asked. Someone else asked if top six was the
limit of the club's ambition and AS said that as a first step this
was. However, this would get us into Europe and then after GG had
been here 3 or 4 years, he would have hoped the club would be around the
top three to get into the Champions League, where the money is
"awesome". Would we ever be signing record transfers
again and isn't the only way to catch Arsenal and Man. U to bring in the
top class stars came from the floor. Sugar said that Leeds had
bucked the trend, but spending big had seen Blackburn relegated and
Newcastle baled out of bankruptcy by a sponsorship deal with NTL.
A member of the audience commented that throwing money after players
didn't always work - Newcastle had spent £80 million over the last few
years and had only won one trophy in 50 years !! Someone said that he thought the side was very good and possibly only
two players away from being top three, while another had a rant
about the club being too inconsistent. Another question about transfers
wanted the procedure at the club clarified. GG, Pleat and the
scouts all spot players and many are played against in the Premier
League. Videos and tip-offs come in by the sack load, but it is
the manager who decides who he wants and then AS and DP try to get them. Still
on players, a shareholder said that in the old days, players would walk
to sign for the club, but that didn't appear to be the case now.
Why ?? Sugar said this was a good question. He felt the
media were a lot more active than previously; filling their pages with
rumours and stories, like the one about Horsfield of Fulham, which was
completely fabricated. He went on that agents are the real problem
nowadays as they decide when and where a player goes and how much for,
depending on how much you paid the agent. Was this legal someone
asked. It doesn't matter, said Sugar, it is what happens. He
said Pleat's scouting team identify a player, but the agent wants to see
how much another club will pay him to obtain the player. Some
players don't even turn up to see the facilities or speak to the
manager, just send their agent. Agents may even be acting
illegally, as Jermaine Pennant was all lined up to come to Tottenham,
who had done everything to bring him to the club and then, at the eleventh hour, he signed for Arsenal. because of the
alleged greed of one of his agents. Next he was asked what about
Anderton and Lund ? Anderton's agent was still in
"dialogue" with the club, but from 1.1.2000, he could sign a
pre-contract agreement with another club and his agent could tout him
around to see what he could get. Sugar added that if Spurs are in
his heart and it is not about money as he says it is, then he will
sign. Someone added that if Darren left after the club sticking by
him all through his injuries, then it will be the biggest injustice
ever. AS didn't know who Lund was !! A question was put to
Mr. Sugar that he might like to name and shame the guilty agents, but he
said that he had enough trouble already !! Next up was a question
about the maximum wage at the club, Ruud van Nistelrooy and Patrick
Mbomba of Cagliari. The wages are spiraling because of TV money
coming into the game, but as far as van Nistelrooy was concerned, Pleat
said that he was aware of the player and was close to Frank Arnesen (the
PSV coach). The player was content at PSV and last time someone
asked how much, they were told £13 million. However, if he became
available the club would be interested. Mbomba he wasn't so clued
up on, but said that he and George had not been to Cagliari, so perhaps
they needed a trip there !! Then
the time came for asking about players we had been linked with - namely,
Heskey and a last minute approach for Sutton . Pleat replied
that Sutton is represented by a PFA agent - Eamonn O'Keefe and at the time,
the club were aware that Blackburn wanted £12 million. They
considered this too much, but his agent had told Chelsea that another
club was interested to up the ante. As for Heskey, Leicester were
approached, but as has been seen in the papers lately, he only wants to
go to Liverpool. "What about Berkovic ?" came the
question, "did you speak to Harry Redknapp about him?"
Pleat answered that he speaks to Redknapp every 2-3 weeks, but did not
make a bid for Berkovic in the summer. The last query about
players was about a trip that GG and DP made to Argentina to see a
striker. Apparently, they went, but he was injured after 17
minutes, although they intend to watch him again in the future. Footballing
Statement
A comment was made to the effect that as part
of the Annual Report, the manager and Director of Football should
prepare statements to let the shareholders know what was happening in
footballing terms and offer hope for the future. Sugar thought
this was a good idea, but said that everything in the Annual Report had
to be audited and he had problems with other companies trying to get
past the auditors to include things in the report which promised things
or didn't comply with their rules. Someone else suggested that it
could be included as a small booklet to shareholders, which didn't form
part of the formal report. Media / TV money
The thorny question of income was raised in the
way of a question about Media companies sniffing around the club and Pay
Per View (PPV). The Chairman said that lots of companies had
approached the club and it was a bit like selling the family
silver. If you sell now, then two years down the line it could be
worth an awful lot more and you look like you have sold cheaply.
Many companies want a tie-in with Internet rights and TV negotiating
rights to restrict the freedom of clubs. One even wanted you to
sign away merchandising rights in perpetuity !! Sugar felt that
PPV was just around the corner - 18 months away. The money
associated with this will be huge and media companies want some of this
as part of any other deal at the moment. Agents and players are
also carefully watching the situation, so that they can calculate how
much clubs should "donate to their cause" !! With Sky
Digital hoping to have 5 million units installed in homes across the
country by the end of 2000, the potential for PPV by slipping a credit
card into a slot on the box was massive. Another thing that came
up was about the Bosman ruling and wages. AS said that there was
something every year that arose to make running a club more
difficult. TV revenue, Bosman ruling, contractual legislation;
they all make it very hard to adapt, but things move so quickly now,
that it is very hard to keep up. They all add to the increasing
demands of the players and these days, the gate money doesn't come close
to covering wages. So, the club has to find other ways of raising
the money to pay salaries. One member of the assembly asked for an
assurance that players are not sitting at home watching TV if they are
injured. Mr. Sugar said that this is not the case and the manager
had them in for longer than if they were fit. Another shareholder
confirmed that they were down at Chigwell on Saturdays when receiving
treatment and raised the statement in the report about some players no
longer being part of the manager's plans, thus being a drain on
resources. Two have four years left to run on their contracts and
he wanted to know why they were still there and what was being done to
get rid of them. Sugar said they could not just be written off,
basically "you're just stuffed" !! He would prefer to
see us take a pasting in next year's accounts having got shot of the
ballast, but having lightened the payroll. The club had done
everything to get them out on loan apart from wheel them to other clubs
!! Tickets
Ticketing for the Kaiserslautern away leg was brought up. The
person wanted to know why he had to buy tickets in Germany. was arrested
on turning up at the ground, was marched across the car park, was
videoed, warned not to come within 500m of the stadium and then had to
buy black market tickets off the Spurs fans out there to get into the
match. Sugar said "It sounds like you had a bad night"
!! Packages and tickets were sold, with Spurs taking up the
full allocation offered. The questioner said that he was fed up
with going with the official tours as they left people behind and his
party had to take some of the official tour back with them and catch up
the club's coaches at the ferry.
The "supporter friendly" aspect of customer care was raised in
relation to the season ticket cock-up at the start of the season.
Also questioned was the fact that telephones are left to ring,
without anyone answering and that a liaison committee with the fans
would be a good point to try and iron out the little things that irk us
all. The gentleman said that for a technological genius like
Sugar, sorting out the phones shouldn't be hard. He replied that
for a short period of time (i.e. to deal with season tickets) a
professional company who claimed to have call centres to deal with large
amounts of enquiries was hired; the club not having this facility and it
not being economic to introduce it for such short periods of time.
However, the company failed and now the club would have to find someone
else for next season. The fans inconvenienced by the Zimbru delay
was recompensed with free tickets for the next match. The Fans
Forum exists for raising matters and the biggest complaints are always
about Food and Tickets. The next point reprised the fact that we
were told last year that the Ticket Office "would be sorted",
but the glib remark given to the chap asking about his night in
Kaiserslautern shows that it displays a lack of sympathy for someone who
follows Spurs abroad and speaks volumes. Someone said that the BBC
had a series where Directors and Chairmen go and work back on the shop
floor and had Sugar considered going to work in the Ticket Office for a
couple of weeks ?? He had queued for 2 hours for West Ham away
tickets only to get to the office and be told they were sold out
yesterday. Sugar said that the Ticket Office would always be the
bane of our lives. Why wasn't it possible to purchase tickets on
the Internet through the website, another person asked, to which Sugar
replied that would be possible on the new site coming in March
2000. A question about ticket pricing was made when a gent had
been charged for a West Upper Stand Centre seat, while not moving seat
from what was West Upper Near Centre - a price hike of 40%. Sugar
said that if you get the best view you pay the best prices and he had
been getting away with it previously. He did say, however, that he
realises that prices are high - a father taking his two children could
buy a video recorder for the price of the tickets - but they were a drop
in the ocean compared to the running costs of the club. Then after two
hours it was all over. Apart from a threat to throw a couple of
people out should they continue shouting out or abusing Sugar, it all
went off fairly quietly. No vote of "No Confidence" as
was mooted on the radio news, no difficult questions to be fielded by
the Board and no change from every other year really. Although,
the amount of food they provided was pretty sparse !!
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